[David Pablo]

Greetings Rob,
I couldn't help notice ,by reading today's chat box,you had some trouble with folks posting copyrighted material.What ver happened to the Riddim Police from the old site? Not only did they quickly delete copyrighted material when it was posted, but they also dished out disciplinary actions up to and including outright bans on repeat offenders. It will only take one pissed off artist w. a decent lawyer to see/hear his stuff (or his father's) and this site will be finished.
On a related matter, we found out today fellow RDW member Tony Chin's new cd ,only out 2 weeks, is already being bootleged in Europe.As he sold no physical copies while on tour there (airline luggage restrictions), the only source for the bootleger would be CD Baby . More perplexing is the fact that prior to the discovery of the bootleg, this was the only site his cd was advertised. I have advised Tony to seek a subpoena of all CDBaby's European customers who have purchased his cd in order to target the culprit so as to pursue further legal action .The bootlegger is also selling the cd with a considerable mark-up (reportedly $27 -up $15 from the $12 CDBaby is charging),which will translate to a court ordering Tony be compensated for those additional profits while not helping the bootleger's defense in the least-Audiomaxxx only charged $5 for his bootlegs, and he is now rotting in a Canadian prison cell.
Anyone with any info or if you see anyone selling Tony's cd in Europe please contact me via PM so we my verify the legitamacy /illegality of said cd.

Respect
Pablo
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[ZACHEOUS JACKSON]

Greetings Dave Pablo
sorry to hear about what happen to Tony CD.
Did Tony send some out to Europe in a promo pack? maybe that is how them did bootleg it.
The same thing happened to a mp3 promo cd i put together last year and sent out to US radio dj's and dj's in Europe i later found out from someone in the US that it was ripped and now all over the place,.
The trouble with these illegal sites is that they are based in russia and cannot yet be touched by certain law, but the PRS/MCPS and other organisations are working to change this.
I think that the ripp most likely took place in Europe.
I don't know how tony will track down those people from the CD baby contacts because it can be anyone of them.. and i don't think that they will own up to it.
I intend to put an official CD out later this year and have some serious idea and how to stop this kind of theft..regards
Zacheous

[RATIONAL MOVEMENT]

what illegal stuff has been put up on this site? samples used in tunes or full tunes?

[David Pablo]

Originally Posted by RATIONAL MOVEMENT

what illegal stuff has been put up on this site? samples used in tunes or full tunes?

from what I can gather from Rob's message in the shoutbox, someone was posting "remixes" of Marley material.On the old site
quite often dj's were using the "instrumental" version of riddims off VP's Riddim Driven or Greensleeve's one-riddim series of cd's
to toast on, which, if the producer of the riddim didn't hire them to voice, still constitutes infringement.Comercially availible accapella's, intended for club purposes only, often show up on folks posts on the old site as well,and again, since these are not royalty free, is infringement.Then of course there is the use of samples of studio bannter from the odd reggae classic tune and also the use of just the drum intro from a commercial tune,with Tubby's productions being specially favored....you name it , it was posted on the old site, and a group of dedicated,yet for obvious reasons,annonymous site members regularly "police" the site
for such material.I guess they had a fallout with Steve somewhere along the way and really don't give a f$#@ anymore whether the community ,which is essential the same here as on the old site, survives or not.It's not a bad idea, if anyone comes across something like this on this site, to notify Rob-I'm sure he won't disclose your name .I hate the implications of doing such a thing but let's face it, this is OUR community,and if we cherish it we won't let anyone jeapordize it,seen?

[David Pablo]

Originally Posted by ZACHEOUS JACKSON

... cd i put together last year and sent out to US radio dj's and dj's in Europe i later found out from someone in the US that it was ripped and now all over the place,.

When Tony get's back from his well deserved vacation, I will get a list of dj's he sent it to and pm you .It might be worthwhile to compare notes! If nothing turns up, it's a start in the right direction, at the least.
Bless

[admin]

I think the community should always help "police" the site. As it grows there is just to much material to check daily. The person was asked to remove the marley tracks and they did.
RDW also has a copyright page here
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[herbanmusic]

Blessings
I man posted the remix, after getting I hands on the multitracks of the original material from studio of some marley tracks...
only reason why i done it was cuz it was my dub versions of it and not a rare mix; Apologised to rob and do it here again for all to see and know !
Maybe i got too excited by the ultimate experience for a marley fans as ive been since kid ( who wouldnt ?) and maybe i went a step too far (i now know i did).
So to anyone concerned, i leave my apologies... My intention was never to cross anyone, being an artist that lives just from music (financially )...
I man get lots of tunes first handed everyday, even before releases, sent either by promoters, artists themselves or labels, and tend to pass them ony to trust worthy people ( a handfull selectas and radio dj's) but never without the permission of those involved !
Bootlegging is a real issue, and more than ever bands are surving solely from live shows due to the fact that is impossible to live from releases(if ever was possible).
Giving thanks
Ras Bruno

[IRISH MOSS]

Riddim Police definitely did some work for the community in the past. There were times the policing was put to question. There is a way to sample or paraphrase that is totally adequate and from the history of things, I'd say quite encouraged and well received.

I still appreciated someone doing the job in the past and that it wasn't me.

There were some unfortunate situations like when a singer sang a line that was paraphrased from psalms and get their tune struck for quoting the bible, like Bob Marley. LOL I received a few IM and emails on that. "What the....I can't quote a psalm that another reggae artist did?" Had us in stitches. Paraphrasing, rhetoric and quoting is a big part of reggae music lyrics. Can't really argue that one. How many Shine Eye Gal tunes are there? How many Miss your Water? How many Rentman? How many Fight for your Right tunes?
Quite a few.

There were a few questionable ones that got struck but many were obviously no good and it was good to have em knocked out.

Rita may be trying to secure rights to the Bible now for it's influence on her husband's lyrics but even her attorney can't make that one stick in court.

There is always going to be something. Someone let's a voicing loose on a released riddim. Yes it breaks a law or two. Nobody will prosecute it cuz there is no money in it. Dancehall riddim seem to show up everywhere revoiced. Seems unless cash was generated noone cares. Probably has something to do with most riddims being used and tossed for the next in a flash.

The Marley tracks, like the Marvin Gaye and Beatles tracks are great fun to listen to seperated and mess about mixing. The problem is you are dealing with entities that are wealthy as it gets and that kind of wealth stops at nothing to get more. Shutting down a little reggae community means nothing to those types of corporate hierarchy.
Plus....they are Bob's tracks. Like being there.

[herbanmusic]

Bless Rob !
I want, in a public way, note the fact that Rob was tottaly cool with I(considering the situation) and , asked instead of demanding (even though he had the right to do so)...Just for those facts alone, he has InI TOTAL RASpect...
Big up to Rob and all the RDW massive !
Giving thanks
Ras Bruno

[Debstar]

Yeah Rob is a very great and fair person.
Bruno you made a mistake, in your excitement, but don't feel bad.
Nuh man send the police feh you okay
Besides you a fast runner! Hahah
Bless
Debs