[ZACHEOUS JACKSON]

Brad stop putting yourself down my brother...your productions are awesome...you have them locked sah...

[Don Fe]

Originally Posted by the manor

i mean in ways of mixin, final product, masterin i aint got a clue , so how could i sell that ?

I'll see if I can dig out some info for you bro'. For me, and you know full well I say this from the heart. Your tunes are brilliant - they show the essence of a classic in every one you post. So you are 95 percent all there - believe me, I wish I could right hook lines like you do.

They are also well recorded, but yes, maybe at mixdown time you could learn a few things about compression and HP Filters etc, but mate, if you have come as far as doing the tunes you do, the only thing you got left to do is spend a bit of time investigating a few concepts of basic mixing techniques and your tune are right up there with the best.............. if I can find it in time I'll do you a copy of a video course I got about how to use various things like compressors etc, 'cos believe me bro', with the ear and feeling The Most High has blessed you with, the rest is no test! Blessup my brother Brad!

I could play you tunes far 'better' mixed than yours technically speaking, but they dont even come close to what you knock out. Stand strong and believe!

[mdread]

MP3.com did not collapse because of cheating or because of alleged "mp3 wickedness".

They collapsed because they had a possibility to listen to mp3's of commercial music which you could listen to if you showed mp3.com that you owned the CD by putting the original CD's in your CDR-drive. A stupid thing, really, that was of no use.

Vivendi Universal first sueed them to the ground and then bought the site, after which the deleted the contents.

It was not the payment program that brought MP3 into problem.

I was interesting to read DC saying that there's more sites looking into these possibilities. Well, I would love to know and support these sites.

When I read about the "Internet Dubbers", i feel talked to. Being one of the pioneers of this, namely of people making DUB at home studio releasing it online, I think that the Online Artists ("Internet Dubbers") are simply the fruits of this digital time and possibility called the Internet.

Names were mentioned and I should say that back in the days I wass oficially promoting free legal downloads of Jah Warrior and other mentioned artists who themselves got money because of the MP3 program. That program was the real threat to the music industry and it is sad to read how people actually parrot the music indutry's propaganda and rhetoric.

We have the conservatives, who just like in the early days of the electric guitar claimed that music should be acoustic. The Music Industry itself has for years dominated the market, are still dominating, are still deciding what the people are to hear and I think that is wrong.

We live in times wherein artists and listeners are in direct contact. A time wherein artists and listeners emancipate and I am all for it.

I think RDW is simply too small to come up with such a program, and the name of the site has more or less prevented it too The reason for that being that we need other styles like House Hip Hop and Rock there too. MP3 had 200,000 artists and millions of listeners and had more income than ad revenue.

Ofcourse artists who pay a fee will do that because they expect that fee to return. What do you think about customers such as Radio Stations and other commercial enterprises who can subscribe to new music for a fee?

Ofcourse, the music must be interesting. Can we, "Internet Dubbers", do it? I say yes. Ofcourse we can make interesting music and as a matter of fact, we do. I see no reason to go into a state of inferiority complex just because I happen myself to have this state of mind that I prefer to give my music away because I know for a fact people will always download music for free.

Take the vinyl fetishists, for example. How much effort and money is being put into these releases? I have some vinyl releases and frankly, I prefer the digital, really. I think vinyl sucks. It's a relic from a past that I am happy is history. Nobody buys vinyl anymore, and then to weap and wail that no body buys it is a bit too much for my taste.

Everyone who like music will spend money in it, they will spend the money the have and they cannot spend the money they do not have. When we as "Internet Dubbers" are able to make good music for free and we are also able to make some money with that still, what is the freaking issue? Let others jump on that bandwagon and let us create a new way of dealing with music.

For, in the end, what I think, the issue is, that in essence music should be free and when modern technology provides us with ways of doing that while still providing income for the artists I say who can be against such a thing?

Indeed...



No offense, stricktly sense

One Love,
MD

[Don Fe]

Everyone who like music will spend money in it, they will spend the money the have and they cannot spend the money they do not have. When we as "Internet Dubbers" are able to make good music for free and we are also able to make some money with that still, what is the freaking issue? Let others jump on that bandwagon and let us create a new way of dealing with music.

For, in the end, what I think, the issue is, that in essence music should be free and when modern technology provides us with ways of doing that while still providing income for the artists I say who can be against such a thing?

................ yep, couldn't agree more. Not an easy thing to achieve tho', but hey, what is?

[herbanmusic]

Brad: Don Fe is 101% right about youre quality (told you that when i was there and you know it)...About the learning a few more bits technically speaking, doesnt hurt and allways help !
Mdread isagree with you about the vinyl: I think youre not really aware of how many Vinyls are still sold everyday and he demand for such releases( ill be releasing one Iself soon). About all the rest, youre there, spot on !
And, tim again : Youre right- Even though i can get the pirate copy of some albums i still buy the original thing a lot of the times, and will keep buying, and any fan will keep in doing so...
What a lot of people seems to forget( while talking from a higher place, conditions wise) is that theres so many countries where internet is not a reach of the majority ( i know what im talking, coming from the guetto, though crrently living in the uk)... Jah blessed I in allways having the conditions, the contacts and most luxuries(or at least access to it, back in portugal), i man was allways related to big bands, artists and had access to studios and performing gear, but know that there is so many people that werent/arent that lucky...So , youre forgetting about them !
Actually in such places (not talking about portugal but other countries) tapes are still a reality and the only way of listening to music, radio sometimes... So, i man think that we speak from a previleged position, being a bit selfish sometimes... Oh, yes forgive me: Theres no money to be made from those countries...Forgot !
Giving thanks

[mdread]

When I look to the amount of Jamaican vocalists uploading music to the Internet, and I hope that more will come to RDW as the older V didn't carry the ones I talk about either, I do see that we are no longer living in times that computers and Internet is a thing of the rich of the world, so to speak.

Cassette tapes are predominantly "illegal" copies, just like a lot of mp3's. Same mentality we talk about. Like you say, you can't make money over there so to speak, which shows in the use of the medium used to listen to music. And so, I seriously wonder if in those countries there will be a run to the record stores to the latest vinyl release of the Outernet Dubbers.

In short, when people have acces to music, which shows in the presence of that music, it means that there will also come a system of distribution of online music. In other words, when they record vinyl or CD the Internet will follow if it is not there already.

In yet other words: welcome to the 21st century.

I think, that the music industry and in it's trail the indies, are weaping and wailing too much over the fact that the way they used to practice to make money with their music isn't the only way anymore. To then attack the so-called Internet Dubbers is really too much in my eyes, really it is, and I take offense in this insulting of what really is an emancipation movement since artists and audience now have a direct relation.

It is wrong to try and divide artists based on the way they produce and release their music. It prevents the older artists to move forward and it disables the now generation to forward the flame of into this time in Inity.

I wish everyone success when they put their money in vinyl, really I do and I hope there are enough enthousiast to buy the thing, but for me, I heard my own tunes on vinyl and I know how I want to have them and that can not be in vinyl. Additionally, I do not see much vinyl, only in specialized stores of which I also see less and less.

I think that we must face the fact we live in the I-pod Iwa, the argument that there is countries in the world where the I-pod is not the most sold product so to speak does not hold because in these countries money is not made so to speak. It would only hold to support my argument, namely that we must find other ways to make money with our music than to demand it from the people who love to listen.

MP3.com has provided the proof that it can be done. My only problem is that I think that we as Reggae/Dub artists are not enough in number. Basically, I think when this site would have let's say 50,000 artists and 1 million listeners or so, it would work. But these figures will not be there just for the music that we love so much

Anyway, good vibes! Blesseth, as we say.

One Love,
MD

[steve steppa]

Originally Posted by mdread

I think, that the music industry and in it's trail the indies, are weaping and wailing too much over the fact that the way they used to practice to make money with their music isn't the only way anymore. To then attack the so-called Internet Dubbers is really too much in my eyes, really it is, and I take offense in this insulting of what really is an emancipation movement since artists and audience now have a direct relation.

I think that we must face the fact we live in the I-pod Iwa, the argument that there is countries in the world where the I-pod is not the most sold product so to speak does not hold because in these countries money is not made so to speak. It would only hold to support my argument, namely that we must find other ways to make money with our music than to demand it from the people who love to listen.
MD

Well said, and for this reason I've decided to do what I've been thinking about for a loooong time, and look for live musicians to network and start gigging with.
First off, let me say BIG UP to all Outernet Dubbers, because what it comes down to is musical freedom. Even though I recommend to offer only some songs as downloads and not all, it is ultimately the decision of the artist, and this is the beauty of the freedom in internet(outernet) dubbing. I put MD's quote in bold letters above because it's spot-on. There are other ways musically, to make a profit. It's okay to speculate that mp3/downloads can become the music-medium of choice in some near future, but for now...When it comes to making music into a career, the solution was, and is still live performances. Just ask Tony Chin This is how I plan to invest my musical time and energy in the future (hopefully).